Dr Richard Wiseman seems to be unable to do anything right, you may be asking yourself. He messed up almost every experiment he has done you may think. Well, it certainly looks like he is not a very good paranormal investigator. He has a group of so called scientists in his army of sceptics. Ray Hyman has as recently as tonight, 7 Nov 2004 been on a TV show on Ch4 in UK. It said he was working for the CIA….. Why would the CIA want to employ friends and fellow associates of Dr Wiseman.
I am just a humble psychic, I cannot answer this. I am the kind of person who the sceptics despise and put down at every opportunity. Yet, I can find fault with the way this Professor at the University of Hertfordshire in England has conducted most of his scientific work. How can an uneducated fool like me do this? I found the most obvious faults with his fire walking study…….. and what he tried to do to the poor Russian girl Natasha, well you can read about that all over the internet.
This was published in the Society of Psychical Research Journal in October 2004
Wiseman Correspondence Fire walking SPR vol 67 No 873
In this article Wiseman concludes that in fire walking when injury is not sustained by firewalkers, nothing paranormal has occurred. He puts it like this..
“The results of this experiment combined with those obtained by Price in 1937, demonstrate that, in the case of fire walking at least, neither divine intervention nor self belief can overcome the principle of physics.”
So let us examine what Wiseman did to arrive at this conclusion. Wiseman quotes
“ In 1937 Harry Price arranged for an Indian firewalker and fakir named Ahmen Hussain to visit Britain for testing. Price first ask Hussain to walk barefoot over a bed of embers 12 feet long and with a surface temperature of 575 degrees Centigrade. Hussain completed the walk unharmed.”
Now, Price then speculated according to Wiseman, that the heat transferred to the feet during this walk was not enough to cause burning. Price then increased the temperature to 740 degrees Centigrade and extended the walk to 20 feet.
Now, we are told that in this new trial the fakir suffered burns to his feet. What we are not told is, if Price asked people not claiming this power to walk on fire for 12 feet at 575 degrees to see if they could do it without being burned. The real test would be to see if this could be performed by anyone. If anyone could do it as Price seems to suggest, why are we not told this, as it seems to me the reasonable test would be to compare like with like. I am sure even if a paranormal phenomena does exist, there would always be a point where it stopped working and burning would result. I am sure that the phenomena if it does exist would have boundaries within which it occurred. Most thing in science work within boundaries.
So how then did Wiseman replicate this? I am sure he wanted to be able to say that nothing paranormal was going on. Well, Wiseman increased the temperature from 575 degrees and increased the distance from 12 feet, remember the experiment had a positive result for Price and his fakir at these levels. Wiseman increased the distance to 60 feet and the temperature to 700 degrees, I am sure in the hope that his subjects would be burned and he could show the world and BBC TV who were filming this experiment that fire walking had nothing paranormal going on when you did not get burned.
Wiseman, if he wanted to conduct a proper scientific experiment and not a circus show should have first established at what point an ordinary person would reasonably be expected to suffer burns and then test to see if those claiming to have some paranormal ability could exceed these parameters without being hurt.
As it is Wiseman has established nothing other than, he is not such a Wiseman, in fact he has shown he has been rather unscientific and stupid in this experiment. It also comes as no surprise to me that the SPR review procedure has not seen this flaw in Wiseman’s experiment and has agreed to publish it.
As is often the case, Wiseman has moved the goal posts from the claim of being able to walk on fire 12 feet at 575 degrees as Hussain did for Price in 1937 to a position where paranormal or not, one can get a negative result to satisfy his CSICOP friends.
I will leave you with this question, Why did Wiseman who always claims to be open minded not just see if the claims of the firewalkers were above what would be expected from the average individual. We still do not have that answer.
Chris Robinson Dream Detective and Psychic UK. August 2004. .
PRAVDA ARTICLE.......
Americans expose Russian X-ray Girl
11/08/2004 12:23
Natasha Demkina from Russia's Saransk first got popular in London and then disgraced in New York
The world learned about the unique ability of the 17-year-old girl at the beginning of the year. Newspapers reported about the X-ray girl who could see through people like a medical apparatus. Natasha"s talent became evident at the age of 10.
Once the girl suddenly said she saw her mom"s blood running through the veins. However, neither the girl nor her mother got surprised with the incredible talent. Soon, the girl started using medical terms correctly. That was especially astonishing as there were no doctors in the family at all.
Friends of Natasha"s mother became the first patients of the unique girl. A line of patients from different cities of the country lined up near Natasha"s door the year when the girl was leaving school. Natasha X-rayed ten thousand people over the seven years since her talent became evident.
The Russian girl got really popular in January 2004: British journalists brought her to London, and Natasha did successful diagnostics of patients right during a live show on TV. The popular Discover Channel decided to make a film about the unique Russian girl. Natasha Demkina concluded a contract with the TV channel for six months according to which she was prohibited to give interviews to other mass media.
Over the period since that time, Natasha left school with honors. She successfully passed entrance examinations to Moscow"s Semashko State Stomatological University.
Some time ago, the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper gathered "X-ray" people from all parts of the CIS for a congress. Unfortunately, Natasha could not come to the congress. But the newspaper staff was surprised to know that the Commission for Paranormal Phenomena in New York discredited the Russian "X-ray" girl. What is more, Britain"s The Guardian called Natasha a quack.
When the Komsomolskaya Pravda journalist met the girl the latter angrily said she was no X-ray. She explains that the X-ray unit seriously differs from her ability: the unit does scanning of the whole organism completely, but Natasha scans every organ separately to see condition of the whole organism. The journalist decided to try Natasha"s ability and asked the girl if she could see anything in her gums. At that, the gums were closed tightly. Both girls fixed their eyes on each other for some seconds and then Natasha pronounced a stunning diagnosis. The X-ray girl managed to see a pin screwed into the tooth canal after nerve extraction a year ago and even a hardening on the inner side of the gum.
Natasha"s family says something incredible happened in New York. At first, Natasha was brought to London where journalists tested her ability. No doctors were present at the examination. Natasha was told to specify diagnoses of patients, from six to eight people; then her predictions were compared with official medical diagnoses of the patients. They coincided absolutely! As a result of the success Natasha soon appeared in a live show where she "X-rayed" patients in front of big audience. And again the girl performed successfully! Unfortunately, there was no scientific confirmation of the phenomenon.
Other Discovery journalists brought Natasha to New York to head of the Commission for Paranormal Phenomena Richard Wiseman. The man once exposed Uri Gellar who amazed the audience when curved iron spoons and stopped the Big Ben just with a glance. Wiseman is a former illusionist, not a scientist and his main objective is to lay bare other people"s tricks.
The Commission organized another even tougher testing. The girl was put to one room with seven patients at once and was to diagnose each of them. But usually Natasha receives one patient at a time for accurate diagnosing. As a result, the examination lasted for several hours. It was too wicked of Wiseman but Natasha could not compare her diagnosing with the official medical certificates after the examination. The examiners alleged that one of the patients had a metal plate in the head and said Natasha did not scan it. Did the guy actually have the plate? Also the girl was told to point at a patient with a scar somewhere on the body. There were two women with identical scars but of different origins: one woman had her appendicitis operated and the other had a scar after a gynecological operation. Still, the Commission insisted the girl must point at only one patient with a scar. Natasha considered the scar caused by a gynecological operation to be more important and thus indicated this very patient to the Commission. But as it turned out, the examiners wanted the Russian prophet to indicate the woman with a scar after an appendicitis operation. So the girl lost a point. One of the Commission members insisted Natasha got SMS from someone who sent her information about the patients. "I have neither friends nor enemies in the USA. Who could send SMS to me?" A psychologist wanted to prove that Natasha could guess diagnoses of patients by their gests and mimicry and even diagnosed patients together with her. As a result, the psychologist got no points while Natasha was given four out of seven points. Unfortunately, the Commission did not recognize Natasha"s phenomenon.
Natasha did not like the film that Discovery Channel made about her. She is extremely displeased with the final phrase in the film saying that the fundamental medicine must go to the dump if Natasha"s phenomenon is officially recognized. So, the Russian girl was in the focus only when experts wanted to expose her unusual ability.
Svetlana Kuzina
Read the original in Russian: (Translated by: Maria Gousseva)
Related links:
PRAVDA.Ru A Girl with an X-ray vision - PRAVDA.Ru
KM.Ru
Read all about the Dr Richard Wiseman CSICOP dishonest so called scientific debunking of Natasha Demkina, The Girl With X-Ray Eyes. She is so good at her psychic work these debunkers took her to the USA to try and destroy her reputation with the help of the Discovery Channel.
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/propaganda/
A simple search of the internet on Frauds Psychics and Wiseman will reveal lots of views that other very serious academics have on these debunkers. Should not science be about truth and honesty? It should be but I can see that it's not. Science is about EGO Money and Power. We need to change that if we are to call ourselves scientists. How did these debinkers ever get to be professors at universities in the first place... I will tell you, mostly it is a case of jobs for the chaps......... Its who you suck up to and not how clever or honest you are.
Read All About ItProfessor Brian Josephson has investigated this matter along with other genuine academics. We all form the same views about Dr Wiseman of The University of Hertfordshire England. The fallen media star. The media have much to learn about psychics as you will see. We are not all just out to take money for readings from tarot cards and crystal balls.
